Informative video,working on cars and dealing with red locktite have found using a baby solder iron most times with heat em up enuff to remove said screws.
I fully agree on the Allen screw vs. slotted screw. I’ve gotten into this argument many times with young shooters who claim to be experts on guns because they know how to shoot.
Well, there’s the rub: Much like NASCAR drivers that don’t know how to rebuild an engine, there are plenty of shooters that don’t know squat about how to deal with screws, pins, and springs. When the Allen screws are lock-tited into the grip bushing, if they used Red Loctite, you can’t get the Allens out without compromising the grips with heat. The only application I’ve ever used Red Loctite for is muzzle brakes. There are a couple of other applications for Blue Loctite, but not Red Loctite.
Personally, I hate thread locking products on guns. The one I hate the most is “Rocksett” (sodium/potassium silicates). When people apply it to high-engagement (eg, Class 3) threads, that’s it, there is no way to reverse this crap. Youngsters who love gluing all manner of threads on their guns with this stuff tell me “You don’t know what you’re doing – you just soak it for a half-hour in hot water!”
“OK, so why are you bothering me? Why don’t you soak this stuff in hot water? You don’t own a pot of water and a stove?”
Embarrassed silence. Yea, that’s about what I thought.
I’ve had muzzle brakes that were glued on this this crap that I’ve put in hot water for two weeks, to no avail. After that episode, if someone comes in with Rocksett on threads, I give them the choice of either I machine the part off, or they can take their gun away and not bother me.
Once, I had someone come in who had used Red Loctite to hold their barrel on a Remington 700 into the action. I asked “why did you put that crap on there? Now I have to push a flame down your chamber with a propane torch!”
“I didn’t want the barrel coming loose!”
All I can think of is this: The Germans never used any thread glue on Mausers. You should see how hard I have to work to get a barrel off some Mauser 98’s today, 80+ years later; six foot cheater bars on my action wrench.
Surefire used to specify Rockset for use with their suppressor mounts. It seems counterintuitive that any locking compound meant to release in hot water would be worth a crap as a locking compound, especially if used for securing flash suppressors, breaks and/or suppressor mounts.
Couple decades ago when I got what Surefire now calls their “legacy” suppressors, that didn’t make a lot of difference to me but now I’m kinda screwed because their proprietary mounts can’t be used with anything else, including their newer suppressors. On the other hand, that does keep me out of the “suppressor of the month” club……..and neither of those mounts have ever moved after heating up.
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Informative video,working on cars and dealing with red locktite have found using a baby solder iron most times with heat em up enuff to remove said screws.
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This gentleman is spot-on.
I fully agree on the Allen screw vs. slotted screw. I’ve gotten into this argument many times with young shooters who claim to be experts on guns because they know how to shoot.
Well, there’s the rub: Much like NASCAR drivers that don’t know how to rebuild an engine, there are plenty of shooters that don’t know squat about how to deal with screws, pins, and springs. When the Allen screws are lock-tited into the grip bushing, if they used Red Loctite, you can’t get the Allens out without compromising the grips with heat. The only application I’ve ever used Red Loctite for is muzzle brakes. There are a couple of other applications for Blue Loctite, but not Red Loctite.
Personally, I hate thread locking products on guns. The one I hate the most is “Rocksett” (sodium/potassium silicates). When people apply it to high-engagement (eg, Class 3) threads, that’s it, there is no way to reverse this crap. Youngsters who love gluing all manner of threads on their guns with this stuff tell me “You don’t know what you’re doing – you just soak it for a half-hour in hot water!”
“OK, so why are you bothering me? Why don’t you soak this stuff in hot water? You don’t own a pot of water and a stove?”
Embarrassed silence. Yea, that’s about what I thought.
I’ve had muzzle brakes that were glued on this this crap that I’ve put in hot water for two weeks, to no avail. After that episode, if someone comes in with Rocksett on threads, I give them the choice of either I machine the part off, or they can take their gun away and not bother me.
Once, I had someone come in who had used Red Loctite to hold their barrel on a Remington 700 into the action. I asked “why did you put that crap on there? Now I have to push a flame down your chamber with a propane torch!”
“I didn’t want the barrel coming loose!”
All I can think of is this: The Germans never used any thread glue on Mausers. You should see how hard I have to work to get a barrel off some Mauser 98’s today, 80+ years later; six foot cheater bars on my action wrench.
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Surefire used to specify Rockset for use with their suppressor mounts. It seems counterintuitive that any locking compound meant to release in hot water would be worth a crap as a locking compound, especially if used for securing flash suppressors, breaks and/or suppressor mounts.
Couple decades ago when I got what Surefire now calls their “legacy” suppressors, that didn’t make a lot of difference to me but now I’m kinda screwed because their proprietary mounts can’t be used with anything else, including their newer suppressors. On the other hand, that does keep me out of the “suppressor of the month” club……..and neither of those mounts have ever moved after heating up.
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